Moving from 1st to 3rd person, meditating vs meditating, what to think about on stage, & finding pre-television Penn.
The Penn Jillette Radio Show February 23, 2007
https://pennfans.net/files/audio/pennradio/The.Penn.Jillette.Radio.Show.2007.02.23.mp3Podcast: Download (Duration: 42:48 — 9.8MB)Phil vs Joe Part 2